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• CZHN 8/11324 Correspondence : Mike - Letter to Gordon 1987/0807
  He tells Gordon that he was right in his position agreeing the people in the institution will only change him from the inside. He asks if continuing the annual conference withthe NECPF is even worth the effort. ~ Worcester,MA
• CZHN 1/00009 Government document : Strickland, Lee S. 1987/0810
  Information and Privacy Coordinator ~ Central Intelligence Agency ~ Government Report ~ in reference to P87-0206: Response to request for information that agency systems have on Zahn
• CZHN 10/13486 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mr. Peter Steinfels, Editor of Commonweal 1987/0813
  Trying to encourage the publication of his article contrasting Waldheim and Jaegerstaetter because of its relevance to the situation of young people today and their ignorance on the issue of conscientious objectors.
• CZHN 10/13518 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Ms. Ruth Salinger, the President of The Greely Foundation for Peace and Justice 1987/0813
  Briefs her on a summary of the activities and objectives of the Center. Discusses their current project of getting their movie THE REFUSAL dubbed. Also discusses their second project of going to college campuses and talking to the students so that they may be better informed about the realistic possibility of military service and what their options are.
• CZHN 10/13526 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to the Mileage Plus Service Center 1987/0813
  Lists some grievances with United airlines and how they are handled by the company as unsatisfactory. Says expressions of regret are just not enough, the Mileage Plus traveler should be compensated with bonus miles.
• CZHN 8/11239 Correspondence : Bill Shannon - Letter to Gordon 1987/0815
  Recently a group of scholars met at the Thomas Merton Center and discussed two pressing issues, arriving at no conclusion for both. The letter informs Gordon of what happened at the May meeting and warns of the upcoming solicitation for membership. ~ NY
• CZHN 8/11326 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Fern 1987/0817
  His trip was fine, and he thanks her for the bottle of gin. He has not heard from Pat since the funeral but is not worried.
• CZHN 8/11323 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mike 1987/0817
  He addresses Mike's recent actions and arguments regarding the Church. He addresses his NECPF question, and requests that they meet to more fully discuss these topics.
• CZHN 10/13508 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mike 1987/0820
  Discusses a plea for assistance from Brendan Daniels, a Notre Dame ROTC product; thinks they will be able to give Daniels some help. Says this is the third Notre Dame ROTC graduate to write to them recently. Believes Notre Dame should take the lead in putting the "Zahn Compromise" into effect. Also mentions the Center's critical financial position.
• CZHN 10/13516 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Pat 1987/0821
  Discusses what he has done about the Milwaukee "situation" and how everyone is doing after the passing of Tom.
• CZHN 10/13519 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Sarge [Shriver?] 1987/0825
  Encloses the two books and other items he promised to send. Tells of Martin Sheen's interest in doing a TV special for the US on Jaegerstaetter. Still the problem of the confused relationship between the Center and Pax Christi.
• CZHN 10/13478 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to George 1987/0826
  Discussion of the name change, so as to distinguish them from Pax Christi USA. Gives a list of names currently under consideration and asks him to give his two preferred choices and objections concerning other possibilities.
• CZHN 8/11238 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Bill Shannon 1987/0828
  He would love to be in the society and has enclosed his check. He is passing on the opportunity to write a paper as he is very busy, and cannot promise to all the obligations yet. ~ NY
• CZHN 8/11542 PostCard : M. True - to Gordon 1987/0829
  He would like to get Gordon and Mike out for session in the upcoming semester. ~ MA
• CZHN 10/13513 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Father Malloy 1987/0831
  Congratulates him on his appointment to the Presidency of Notre Dame and discusses with him the ROTC issue.
• CZHN 10/13514 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to John 1987/0831
  Writing to fill him in on the most recent Jaegerstaetter developments. Says that the $1000 grant he obtained for them is the only success they have had. Talks about their bad financial year.
• CZHN 10/13482 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Martin Johnson 1987/0831
  Tells of the Center's status, new location, and financial problems. Says Michael Hovey is about to start a new fund-raising effort. Also, mentions that if he succeeds work will go on and if not they will have to "close shop" until June. Asks for prayers.
• CZHN 10/13481 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Rev. Vincent J. Becker of St. Mary's Church 1987/0901
  Talks about the film THE REFUSAL and their lack of funds to dub it into English.
• CZHN 8/11620 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Fr. McGuire 1987/0902
  He explains the best flight schedule he could find at a split cost of $201.25 each and describes the schedule he will have to maintain on his visit to Kentucky.
• CZHN 10/13509 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Rev. Paul McGuire, Campus Minister at Bellarmine College 1987/0902
  Talks about his travel plans to go to Louisville and asks if the time he has allotted for the trip will be sufficient.
• CZHN 8/11327 Postcard : Eileen - to Gordon 1987/0902
  Congratulates him on his address at the Pax Christi National Assembly.
• CZHN 8/11266 Correspondence : Bob - Letter to Gordon 1987/0903
  He has an upcoming talk at Boston College and would like to visit with Gordon. He had a good time at the CPS 26 reunion, and learned he was one survivor of four who walked out in June 1943. He feels something similar should be done for Stoddard-Warner. ~ NY
• CZHN 10/13504 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mr. Philip Lawler, editor of The Pilot 1987/0908
  Death of Msgr. Lally is a tragic loss for both the Boston Archdiocese and the Church in the United States. Discusses his favorable memories of the Msgr.
• CZHN 10/13512 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Tom 1987/0908
  Discusses a situation that was brought to his attention. It is in regards to a new building that is planned for central Frankfurt, and during the excavation they discovered the remnants of the 15th Century Jewish Ghetto. Among the findings was the ancient synagogue site along with ritual baths. A group was soon formed to convince the authorities that the building plans should be cancelled and the historical findings preserved as a memorial.
• CZHN 10/13496 Memo : Gordon Zahn - Memo to the Coordinating Committee regarding the Financial Summary, Outlook, and Implications 1987/0908
  Gives a summary of the final 1986-1987 financial figures and an outlook for the 1987-1988 fiscal year. Also discusses their fund-raising efforts that they hope will help their financial situation.
• CZHN 10/13520 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Sarge [Shriver?] 1987/0911
  Enclosing a copy of THE REFUSAL for his review and gives a summary of the film down to particular scenes. Mentions that he is speaking at a symposium at Georgetown University on September 23.
• CZHN 8/11265 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Bob 1987/0914
  Thanks him for report on "Alexian re-union", and thinks a mass reunion would make for an "interesting" evening. The 5th annual Pacifist weekend will be hosted by Duane and Mary.
• CZHN 10/13489 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Doug 1987/0915
  Discusses the start of the year and says that he is busy preparing for his course. Also, says that he is now in the process or preparing some comments for a Georgetown Symposium on "The Just War and Pacifism" at the invitation of the Military Archdiocese.
• CZHN 8/11249 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Doug 1987/0915
  He is preparing comments for a Georgetown Symposium "The Just War and Pacifism" -- probably the last invitation he will receive from them. He looks forward to being in Colorado, and hopes to see Doug and family soon.
• CZHN 8/11616 Correspondence : Brother Patrick Hart - Letter to Gordon on behalf of Cistercian Studies 1987/0917
  He is delighted about Gordon coming to town on his Kentucky tour, and explains a few of the arrangements he is making for him. He states he and the other monks are interested in his video, and briefly mentions an article of Gordon's in the COMMONWEAL. ~ Trappist, KY
• CZHN 8/11263 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Copy of letter to Msgr. Furfey 1987/0917
  Hopes his new home will give him necessary care. He will be in DC next week for a meeting with the Military Archdiocese, and will visit Furfey. Pax Christi is still going despite financial issues.
• CZHN 10/13488 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to John 1987/0917
  Thanks him for his most generous contribution to the Center. Says they will respect his request that the gift be kept anonymous.
• CZHN 10/13497 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Monsignor Furfey 1987/0917
  Says he will be in Washington next week and had hoped to visit him, but unfortunately will be unable to. So informs him in the letter that the occasion for the Washington trip he will certainly find amusing. This is because it is because of an invitation for him to speak by the Military Archdiocese at a symposium on "The Just War and Pacifism". Also tells him of the failing financial health of the Center.
• CZHN 10/13521 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Sarge [Shriver?] 1987/0917
  Thanks him for his gift to the Center. Encloses a copy of Mike Hovey's letter that was publised in the New York Times; hopes it will catch the attention of Senator Kennedy.
• CZHN 10/13522 Correspondence : Gordon, National Director - Letter to Senator Kennedy 1987/0917
  Discusses his interest in conscientious objection and Franz Jaegerstaetter. His Center seeks to provide information and support to young people who seek recognition as conscientious objectors under the Selective Service Law. Encloses a copy of the letter by Michael Hovey that was in the New York Times since Senator Kennedy is a member of the Armed Force's Committee and has great influence in Selective Service Policies and Procedures. Would like an opportunity to discuss the matters with him.
• CZHN 8/11248 Correspondence : Doug - Letter to Gordon 1987/0918
  He feels Gordon's film would be good to show which may be done as a small campus occasion. He too is surprised that Gordon received an invite from the Christian Soldiers of the Military Archdiocese, joking that it may be a trap and ambush. ~ Colorado
• CZHN 10/13523 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Tom 1987/0918
  Thanks him for his contribution. Says there is nothing definite regarding the name change of the Center yet. Just finished his comments on his speech at Georgetown.
• CZHN 7/09410 Correspondence : Paul J. McGuire - Letter to Gordon 1987/0918
  With an enclosed copy of his Louisville itinerary. Also news that a campus newspaper would like to interview him which would promote him publically before the Day of Reflection ~ Louisville, Kentucky
• CZHN 8/11618 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Father McGuire 1987/0922
  He is finally sending the promised items, and describes a book he cannot recall that includes an article of his on abortion. He explains the theme of his article and apologizes for being unable to recall the title and editor of the book.
• CZHN 9/12022 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Hal Wakin 1987/0923
  He will be a commentator at the Military Archdiocese symposium, which he is looking forward to, and will have a second stint at Colorado College. He mentions he will be able to talk at some programs of Wakin is interested and all proceeds go to his Center.
• CZHN 1/00096 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn 1987/0923
  letter to Gerry and Irene from Washington ~ talks about tree rights, and beauty. tree planting talks of how he has to go to a very distinguished dinner, that he really would rather not go to. Also mentions an article that includes "pacifist bashing".
• CZHN 10/13517 Essay : Gordon Zahn - "Military Archdiocese Comments; Georgetown University" 1987/0923
  Gordon delivers an essay in which he sides with Bishop Dozier of Memphis over the usage of the term "just war" -- says it should be filed away, because it is fiction. States that a German theologian during WWII gave the best advice when he said that a war could only be decided to be just or unjust after the war when all the facts have been gathered; thus to use the terms just or unjust before is simply terminology and is not based on fact.
• CZHN 10/13580 Essay : Gordon Zahn - Comments on remarks of Ambassador Edward L. Rowny on the subject, "The Just War Tradition and Pacifism in the Church's Teachings" 1987/0923
  To suggest that political and military leaders give serious thought to "just war" teachings in modern war is an illusion. Instead of the illusion of "just war" that the Church seems to perpetuate we need to return to the higher ethics of the teachings and example of Christ and the early Christians -- those who were before the idea of "just war" existed.
• CZHN 7/09406 Newspaper Article : Letter to the editor on the article, "A New Maturity in Catholic-Jew . . . 1987/0924
  A article mentioning Zahn's research that left the conclusion that the Catholic Church in particular contributed more in the way of effective support than in effective opposition to Hitler's Germany. ~ New York, NY ~ New York Times
• CZHN 9/12023 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Fr. McGuire 1987/0925
  He received his letter and for the most part the proposed schuedule looks fine. He briefly mentions what he has been up to, especially noting a symposium with the Military Archdiocese.
• CZHN 9/12026 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mary Luke 1987/0925
  He updates the recipient with his future teaching plans and mentions his invitation to the Military Archdiocese symposium regarding "The Just War and Pacifism".
• CZHN 9/12025 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Milo 1987/0925
  He will be back at Colorado College for another stint, and notes that he will have the Jaegerstaetter film with him for possible showings. He is enclosing the requested Memo, briefly mentions his invitation by the Military Archdiocese.
• CZHN 10/13564 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Rev. Paul J. McGuire, Campus Minister of Bellarmine College in Kentucky 1987/0925
  Discusses the schedule and says the one he sent was fine except that he will try and arrange for an earlier flight back. Also mentions that he got an invitation from the Military Archdiocese as one of the commentators at a symposium organized by them titled, "The Just War and Pacifism". The principal speakers there were Gen. Rowny and Peter Henriot, other speakers were Bishops Matthiesen and Accera and Prof. James Dougherty. What he had to say was well received.
• CZHN 8/11261 Correspondence : P. H. Furfey - Letter to Gordon 1987/0925
  He is honored to be one of the first recipients of the Pax Christi award. He was remembering his denouncements of World War I and how, with no one toning his language, the time had "perfect free speech". He is looking forward to seeing Gordon in DC. ~ Hyattsville, MD
• CZHN 10/13581 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Most Reverend Joseph T. Ryan, Archbishop for the Military Services 1987/0928
  Thanks him for the opportunity to participate in last week's symposium; hopes none of the chaplains were offended. Also pleased with his gracious comments after the symposium ended, would like to have an informal meeting and discussion with him upon a return to Washington where they could discuss the Center further. Enclosing a brochure which describes the Center's operations and objectives.
• CZHN 10/13586 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Most Reverend Walter F. Sullivan, Bishop of Richmond 1987/0928
  Says he did well in avoiding the symposium: it would have tested his blood pressure. Will enclose a copy of his comments. Mentions that the choice for a new name is narrowing down to "Center on Conscience and War" and the "John XXIII Center on Conscience and War" with more votes for the latter.
• CZHN 9/12002 Correspondene : Margaret Reher - Letter to Gordon 1987/0930
  She requests some information on THE REFUSAL, and notes that she is currently using Zahn's IN SOLITARY WITNESS, and that she will know the Jaegerstaetter story in a few weeks. ~ PA
• CZHN 7/09409 Flier : Outlined events 1987/10
  A paper flier that has the schedule of the speech Gordon Zahn will be presenting at the October Council Meeting ~ Louisville, Kentucky
• CZHN 7/09408 Outline : Louise Gulick - October Council Meeting 1987/10
  A schedule of events and a brief description on the October Council Meeting and its participants and speakers. ~ Louisville, Kentucky
• CZHN 10/13561 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mr. David J. Mall 1987/1001
  Says that he has to give some talks on abortion in Kentucky next week and says that recently questions have been raised concerning past articles he has written on the subject. Remembered that he had contributed a piece to a book he was editing, asks for a photocopy of the contribution. The listing is in the book IN GOOD CONSCIENCE.
• CZHN 10/13558 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Rev. Kevin Lynch, Editor and Publisher, The New Catholic World 1987/1001
  Asks if the editors have made a decision concerning the article submitted for consideration on August 17. Hopes the lapse in time reflects the "second thoughts" requested in his enclosure letter. Don't want to push the editors, but would appreciate word.
• CZHN 10/13572 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Wendy Clauson [Schlereth], University Archivist from the University of Notre Dame 1987/1001
  Much of his personal correspondence is mixed with the Center's correspondence since he is one of the founders, the corporate president, for a time its director, and now its national director. Wants to know if she wants these papers and says he will continue to collect his scattered papers pending further word from her.
• CZHN 10/13530 Memo : Gordon Zahn - Memo to Coordinating Committee regarding the Proposed Name Change 1987/1001
  Writing from the Center's new office. Says the two names that have been agreed upon so far are The Center On Conscience and War and The John XXIII Center On Conscience and War. So far, John XXIII has the edge. Will continue to wait for their response regarding the name change question and then Mike will go ahead with the fundraising attempts under the new name.
• CZHN 8/11622 Note : Peter Steinfels - to Gordon on behalf of the COMMONWEAL 1987/1001
  He states that the final vote against the use of Gordon's piece was 3-0, with everyone internally divided, as they felt his points on Ollie North were very substantial. He apologizes for the rejection. ~ NY
• CZHN 9/12001 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Dr. Reher 1987/1002
  He has enclosed the memo on THE REFUSAL and asks about details regarding the talk he is supposed to give.
• CZHN 10/13568 Correspondence : Gordon, National Director - Letter to Rev. Donald J. Moore from West Side Jesuit Community. 1987/1002
  Asks if he has seen the window at Votivekirche. Knew there was some kind of commemoration to Jaegerstaetter, but was not prepared to find a full-length memorial window in the side chapel nearest the altar area.
• CZHN 10/13545 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Jim 1987/1006
  Grateful for his suggestions as to possible givers to the Center. Has already written to Jim Carroll and John Eudes. Martin Sheen is a special case; wrote him months ago and has yet to receive a response. Within the first week of the Center's fundraising activity they raised over $10,000, but not a penny since then.
• CZHN 10/13567 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mary Lou 1987/1006
  Wants to know if the December meeting schedule they have in mind will be OK and will allow for discussion time apart from regular meeting schedules. Says the tentative plan is to get to Detroit on Saturday the 12th and leave on the 15th. Will enclose a copy of his comments at the Military Archdiocese symposium; but says it is best not to publish them. Asks for prayers on Oct. 21, will be having an in-depth discussion about the Center.
• CZHN 7/09407 Newspaper Article : Henry G. Ansell - Letter to the editor in response to the article, "No Short Cuts to Catholic-Jewish Reconciliation". 1987/1007
  A compilation of different letters to the editor in response to the recent article discussing the views that there are no short cuts to Catholic-Jewish Reconciliation. Also views stretched out about the Vatican and Zionism. ~ New York, NY ~ New York Times
• CZHN 10/13528 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Rev. Virgil C. Blum from the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights 1987/1008
  Discusses the issue of Selective Conscientious Objection. Asks that if the League has already addressed the problem, he would appreciate knowing what it has done and to what effect and what if any efforts it has had.
• CZHN 8/11264 Correspondence : Wolfram Bruck - Letter to Gordon 1987/1008
  Thanks him for the letter on "Construction Project Borneplatz, giving a few comments in response to Gordon's statements. He encloses further information on the subject to put the discussion on a more "factual" level. ~ Frankfurt
• CZHN 8/11250 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Doug 1987/1009
  Asks him to pass on the enclosed letter to Sam, and let him known all the arrangments are fine. He updates them as to what he has been up to and that surprisingly the session with Military Archdiocese went well.
• CZHN 10/13539 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Doug 1987/1009
  Says that he is set to arrive on Oct. 25 on TWA and asks if someone will be available to meet him. In regards to other matter says he will be disappointed if the Giants go to the World Series. Also says that the session with the Military Archdiocese went well, better than expected.
• CZHN 9/12000 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Dr. Reher 1987/1009
  He discusses cheaper travel fares that his travel agent found, and asks her if she agrees to the dates on which they would bring him to town.
• CZHN 10/13536 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Mr. John L. Sprague, Editor of The Critic 1987/1009
  Enclosing a manuscript for his consideration for publication. Last month when he was invited to be a commentator on a talk given by Ambassador Rowny at the symposium on "The Just War and Pacifism" he was shocked by his flat denial of the "pacifist" tradition of the Church. Thinks this is why the Jaegerstaetter / Waldheim contrast is worthy of attention.
• CZHN 10/13549 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Rev. Richard C. Hannifen, Bishop of Colorado Springs. 1987/1009
  Says that he will be teaching another "block" course at The Colorado College beginning October 26. Mentions THE REFUSAL and that maybe they should think about using it.
• CZHN 10/13569 Correspondence : Gordon Zahn - Letter to Monsignor Murphy 1987/1012
  Says that when they last talked he said he would be open to any suggestions they might have of actions the Archdiocese might undertake in the spirit of the 1983 pastoral letter. Says they have one. Recommend that the Archdiocese undertake a commemoration of John XXIII's contributions in light of the upcoming 25th anniversary of the issuance of Pacem in Terris.
• CZHN 8/11634 Correspondence : Mike - Letter to Gordon on behalf of Assumption College 1987/1013
  He requests help with a DANIEL BERRIGAN READER he is putting together, and especially asks about Gordon's going about getting reprint rights for his THOMAS MERTON ON PEACE. ~ Worcester, MA
• CZHN 9/12795 Critique : Bobby Mattingly - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Gives a summary of Gordon's talk. Says that Gordon talked about how all wars are unjust and how in today's society we don't have to worry about the draft being reinstated. But, that in his time when the draft was reinstated they had a number of ways to get out of it. Says that Gordon discussed how we shouldn't fight with one another, but should make peace.
• CZHN 9/12763 Critique : Chris Bohnert - Student response to a talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He learned that one person can make a big difference and enjoyed the Gordon's inspirational stories about Jaegerstaetter and John Leerie.
• CZHN 9/12784 Critique : Chris Brown - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Gives a summary of Gordon's talk and the points he made about conscious objection. We do not belong in war: it is none of our business and there is no solution, just death.
• CZHN 9/12783 Critique : Chris Matz - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He says that he agrees with some of what Gordon said about consciencious objection in the United States. However, the degree to which this objection is allowed should be limited. If everyone was objecting then there would be no one to fight for our country. He offers the solution that objectors could help our country in other ways such as public service or volunteering.
• CZHN 9/12790 Critique : Chris Sturgeson - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Gives a summary of Zahn's life and Franz Jaegerstaetter's stand against Hitler. Concludes by saying that peace is very important.
• CZHN 9/12793 Critique : Dan Chesto - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Respected the choice he made, but he does not believe that everyone should be compelled to follow his steps. He does not agree with him that no war is a just war, but feels that WWII was especially just. Says that we have a lot of privileges in this country and it is our responsibility to fight to keep those privileges.
• CZHN 9/12791 Critique : David Heip - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Admired the fact that Gordon achieved CO status in such a difficult time (World War II). Also, talked about how he enjoyed Gordon's discussion of the biography he did on John Leary. Said John was a graduate of Harvard and was involved in Peace and Interracial groups. He died at the age of 24 due to cardiac arrest.
• CZHN 9/12776 Critique : Jan Walters - Response to a talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He quotes Gordon, and mentions some of his previous books, concluding that the talk was interesting as he learned a lot about the draft laws and alternatives, though noting that he became bored during the presentation.
• CZHN 9/12789 Critique : Jeff Renneiser - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Believes that Gordon is a courageous man, but does not believe that what he was doing was right. Says that it is our duty to fight for our country, whether we think it is right or not.
• CZHN 9/12788 Critique : Jeff Rutledge - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He has mixed feelings about the idea of people who are conscientious objectors. On the one hand they are courageous for stand up for their beliefs. However, he believes that if we don't fight we could loose the values that we have worked so hard to gain. Does not know yet which side he will be on, but hopes that he will not be drafted.
• CZHN 9/12785 Critique : Jeff Seiden - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He says that he found Gordon's talk to be repetitious and tiring. He did not believe that he really cared about what other people in the class thought, but only cared about his beliefs. Overall, though, he admired Gordon's accomplishments and believed that he was truly fighting for the young men of today and their rights.
• CZHN 9/12781 Critique : Jim Higgins - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He talks about how Gordon made some interesting points that made his objection seem like a realistic alternative and did not make him sound like a "bleeding heart liberal. " Says this country is based on individualism and free choice and we need more people like Gordon making their voice and their dissent known.
• CZHN 9/12799 Critique : Jody Nalley - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Did not think that Gordon was a powerful speaker and believed that even when he was answering questions he was inadequate in his answers by frequently answering questions in a round about way. He also completely disagreed with Gordon's idea of letting the person decide if a war is just or not. Because, he believed, then no one would be fighting in the wars and defending our country.
• CZHN 9/12782 Critique : John Maguire - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He says that although he admired Gordon's courage during World War II, he still has some disagreements with his belief system. John believes that people have a duty to fight for their country. However, he does not believe that people should have blind obedience to their goverment. But they should not look out for only their individual interests, but rather trust that the government is looking out for the society as a whole.
• CZHN 9/12778 Critique : Larry Carriro - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He discusses his feelings regarding the validity of Gordon's statements, and notes that he is proud that his country has COs, simply because it shows a somewhat national respect for other countries.
• CZHN 9/12800 Critique : Larry Heck - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Disagrees with Gordon's statement that Christians and war should not mix because then without the Christians fighting the Germans might have won World War II. Thinks Gordon should look at the consequences of his beliefs. Believes that he is an intelligent man, but if we ever had a President like him the United States would be much worse off than it is now.
• CZHN 9/12794 Critique : Mark Potts - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Enjoyed the speech, but does not agree with what he was saying. Believes that everyone has a duty to fight for their country and if you don't want to fight you can take up a duty that doesn't require actual combat. Also, believes that war is sometimes the only answer. But everyone has a right to their own opinion.
• CZHN 9/12798 Critique : Mark Yedington - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Believed that Gordon made some really interesting points about C.O. Agrees with Gordon that in order to be a C.O. you must strongly believe that the war is unjust. Believes that you must have specific evidence of why you think the war is unjust, because if you do not have this then people will try to become C.O. s purely out of the fact that they are scared and this should not be allowed.
• CZHN 9/12773 Critique : Matt Ragers - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He found Gordon's points very interesting and believes that people should not have to kill if they do not want to.
• CZHN 9/12797 Critique : Michael Mandiz - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Believes that what Gordon has done is very courageous, but does not agree with his C.O. status during World War II. He says that Gordon stipulated that there are no good reasons to fight, but he thinks that in fact there are many good reasons why we should fight. He believed that Gordon came off as repetitive and did not seem very excited with what he was talking about.
• CZHN 9/12779 Critique : Mickey Schmidt - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Having much difficulty following Gordon he concludes that it is not right to hit someone because they hit you and so finds it immoral for one to fight in a war they know nothing about.
• CZHN 9/12774 Critique : Patrick Lanning - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He disagrees with some of Gordon's statements. He states he would not like to join the army but if drafted would go. He asks what COs have to do when drafted and mentions his disbelief that some parents disowned their sons for being COs.
• CZHN 9/12801 Critique : Ricky Caldwell - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Really enjoyed Gordon's talk. Said it taught him a lot of consequences of the draft and a lot of benefits that are taken away from you as a citizen if you do not register for the draft. Enjoyed his discussion of C.O. and how the Catholic Church did not agree with it in the 1940s, but now does. Says, that C.O. became a big deal with the Vietnam War.
• CZHN 9/12775 Critique : Ricky Ray - Response to talk of Gordon's 1987/1016
  He respects Gordon's opinion; he is amazed that some people can believe in something so much that they would allow their lives to be taken, as was the case for some early COs Gordon mentioned.
• CZHN 9/12787 Critique : Rob Carrico - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He says that Gordon seemed very sincere and dedicated and had his respect. Believes that it takes as much courage to say that you will not fight in the war as it does to say that you will. He does not know yet what he will do when the time comes, but says he is not too worried because he does not think the United States will be reinstating the draft any time soon.
• CZHN 9/12792 Critique : Rodney Mayer - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  He says that Gordon was highly opinionated and that he disagreed with much of what he said. He disagreed with Gordon's opinion that all wars are unjust and thus not worth fighting. Although the United States involvement in Vietnam was questionable, their involvement in WWII was completely justified.
• CZHN 9/12786 Critique : Steve Spears - Response to talk by Gordon 1987/1016
  Found the talk interesting and agreed with Gordon that war is wrong. However, he does not believe that the draft is wrong. If he is drafted he will proudly serve his country.

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